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About rating, change please.
GodOfPorn
2022-12-16 23:32:46
Hi, I know this site since a few days and first what is strange to me is rating. Perfect and Good are ok, but that Meh and Bad should be different. So I propose, I guess every user will agree with this: Perfect Good Average Bad Wrong - when subtitles aren't for this movie. Thanks.
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admin
2022-12-19 15:14:38
Hello! Ratings have been discussed a lot when creating this site (and after). Even the colors have been chosen after long talks :) The conclusion is: there won't be a 5th choice. The main reasons are: - We don't want an option to say "50% bad, but 50% okay". We prefer something to say "rather good but not perfect" or "rather bad but sill enough to get the overall meaning" - Many times, it may be very difficult to know if the subtitles are just "very bad" or "not for this movie". If you combine translation errors and sync issues for a movie you ignore language, I can tell it's very difficult. So here again we've chosen to make a choice: from your point of view, are these subtitles for another movie, or are there just too minimalistics. In the examples you noticed, and as some users said, I think the point is about thinking to add the "Draft" tag when uploading subtitles. People who've tried know that speech detection softwares can often result in non-sense text. However, the uploader may just be unable to know how to fix it (ie: I know there are deaf people here). They spent time for their work and shared it here for free, so we can't blame them. That being said, your comment reopens an old discussion about creating a "should be considered as draft" button.
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vongooB9badge
2022-12-19 16:03:19
Hi, I don't think that an intermediate option would be very useful either, it's hard enough to decide with the ones that exist, but I think it would be interesting to rename some of them so that they are not confused with an evaluation of the movie itself. For example: Perfect, Correct, Draft, Wrong. I think it would be the same but it is clearer that they refer to the quality of the subtitles and not to whether you like the movie. On the other hand I think it would be good to show the list of votes, not just the number. First of all it is really an information that is already shown in the profiles of the users, it is not a secret. And I think it would allow users to decide for themselves if the person who votes inspires them trust or not. There are too many very disparate votes, the same subtitles have votes in Bad or Meh and in Perfect, which is something totally nonsense. For example, if I download a subtitle that has a vote of perfect and I see that it is an automatic translation of a voice recognition that does not make sense, the next time that I see a vote of perfect of the same person I already know that I cannot trust.
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admin
2022-12-19 17:10:32
Good suggestion...
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GodOfPorn
2022-12-20 00:41:24
Ok, whatever how you will do it. I mean this word "Meh" is a strange word. And "Bad" should to be for a bad subtitles, not, when aren't for this movie. I think should to be 4 levels, and subtitles who aren't for this movie should to be removed immedietely, because why they could to stay there? Users can to write in comments when subs aren't for these movies, right? Ratings about that isn't required.
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admin
2022-12-21 15:16:21
@vongooB9: I (truc1979) talked about your suggestion with another admin and he also totally agree. Thanks again for your suggestion! Renaming the ratings will be done as soon as possible. Displaying the list of ratings will need a little more time, especially because I still don't know the best way to display it. See you!
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Rkenton61badge
2022-12-22 06:35:44
0 - 10 10 being perfect 0 being should be burned at the stake for posting this drek!
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vongooB9badge
2022-12-22 10:38:55
@Admins: You are welcome, if there is anything I can do to help, let me know. I also think it would be helpful to make a more elaborate explanation of how to use the voting system. The explanation on the subtitle pages is good as a quick guide. But I think that it would be good to extend it in another page to clarify at least the most important doubts and to try that we all vote at least with a similar criteria. When I can I will try to write an example of the things that I believe that it would be useful to explain and to see what do you think.
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